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	<title>Comments on: Rumor time: 2nd-Gen iPhone in September for half the price?</title>
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		<title>By: Elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will the iphone nano have the same features as the actual iphone..like the youtube feature ect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will the iphone nano have the same features as the actual iphone..like the youtube feature ect.</p>
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		<title>By: Obidos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obidos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;5778&quot;]Dennis - You&#039;re dumb. No one really cares about grammer....except you. Cunt.

Jerry - I have a feeling that it only shows one icon at a time, and you have to scroll through icons.While it probably doesn&#039;t do everything that the bigger ones doo, i think it does do more than what&#039;s shown in the pic.

Personally, I think anyone who&#039;s out there crying &quot;but I spent $600!&quot; should have waited. Besides the fact that $600 dollars is WAY too much to spend on a phone, people had to know that they&#039;d be putting out a newer, cheaper version.[/quote]
Ah... Ha... Ha... How could anyone be fooled by this picture? On both of the &quot;new&quot; phones, you can see clearly where someone has photoshopped it. I have made a picture of a tiny iPhone by editing it, and I used gradients on the places where they connected, so it is much less obvious. Sorry people, photo&#039;s a fake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="5778"]Dennis &#8211; You&#8217;re dumb. No one really cares about grammer&#8230;.except you. Cunt.</p>
<p>Jerry &#8211; I have a feeling that it only shows one icon at a time, and you have to scroll through icons.While it probably doesn&#8217;t do everything that the bigger ones doo, i think it does do more than what&#8217;s shown in the pic.</p>
<p>Personally, I think anyone who&#8217;s out there crying &#8220;but I spent $600!&#8221; should have waited. Besides the fact that $600 dollars is WAY too much to spend on a phone, people had to know that they&#8217;d be putting out a newer, cheaper version.[/quote]<br />
Ah&#8230; Ha&#8230; Ha&#8230; How could anyone be fooled by this picture? On both of the &#8220;new&#8221; phones, you can see clearly where someone has photoshopped it. I have made a picture of a tiny iPhone by editing it, and I used gradients on the places where they connected, so it is much less obvious. Sorry people, photo&#8217;s a fake.</p>
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		<title>By: Madleist09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madleist09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, shit! Pardon me! You&#039;re*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, shit! Pardon me! You&#8217;re*</p>
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		<title>By: Madleist09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madleist09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, man Dennis. Everybody on this thread thinks your such a little slut at this point. Grow up, assclown. And yes, Madleist09 ARE thinking you&#039;re a petty douche rocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, man Dennis. Everybody on this thread thinks your such a little slut at this point. Grow up, assclown. And yes, Madleist09 ARE thinking you&#8217;re a petty douche rocket.</p>
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		<title>By: dennis (troll)</title>
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		<dc:creator>dennis (troll)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:) your mom would be so proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:) your mom would be so proud.</p>
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		<title>By: joeylang</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeylang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, dude, the pic is obviously a mockup, it was enver intended to be real......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, dude, the pic is obviously a mockup, it was enver intended to be real&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Vasquez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Vasquez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 3rd pic is obviously a fake.  If you look closely it looks like the 2 ends of an iphone were compressed together.  If simplicity were in fact Apple&#039;s aim, making a smaller device with just mail and a phone would not make any sense whatsoever.  How would you read your mail?  Scrolling on such a small device would not make sense either.  

The iphone Nano does not make sense from a financial standpoint.  Apple currently supplies 4 and 8gb  iphones.  One would logically deduce that if Apple had in fact intended to produce an iphone nano, that Apple would have used 30/60gb hard drives in there regular  iphones, and 4/8gb flash drives in the iphone nano.  The ipod nano currently retails for 199 and 249 and the introduction of an iphone nano would cannibalize those sales.   Reports have already confirmed the lack of any available extra flash memory, as Apple has secured the majority of it for their iPods and iPhones.  With that being said, all this is pure speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 3rd pic is obviously a fake.  If you look closely it looks like the 2 ends of an iphone were compressed together.  If simplicity were in fact Apple&#8217;s aim, making a smaller device with just mail and a phone would not make any sense whatsoever.  How would you read your mail?  Scrolling on such a small device would not make sense either.  </p>
<p>The iphone Nano does not make sense from a financial standpoint.  Apple currently supplies 4 and 8gb  iphones.  One would logically deduce that if Apple had in fact intended to produce an iphone nano, that Apple would have used 30/60gb hard drives in there regular  iphones, and 4/8gb flash drives in the iphone nano.  The ipod nano currently retails for 199 and 249 and the introduction of an iphone nano would cannibalize those sales.   Reports have already confirmed the lack of any available extra flash memory, as Apple has secured the majority of it for their iPods and iPhones.  With that being said, all this is pure speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: joeylang</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeylang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah i agree with Garfinkel up here^^^^^, i am completely happy with spending 600 ohn this phone.  It has so many features that i absolutely love and use so often, its crazy.  totally worth the 600.  Also, i sold my vid ipod for 200, so it really only cost me 400 and thats great for me because now i can carry all my music with me all the time.  I LOVE the iPhone, best purchase of my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah i agree with Garfinkel up here^^^^^, i am completely happy with spending 600 ohn this phone.  It has so many features that i absolutely love and use so often, its crazy.  totally worth the 600.  Also, i sold my vid ipod for 200, so it really only cost me 400 and thats great for me because now i can carry all my music with me all the time.  I LOVE the iPhone, best purchase of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Garfinkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garfinkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent $599, and have no regrets. Stop saying it is way too much for &quot;a phone.&quot; Regardless of its name, it isn&#039;t just a phone. In fact, I probably use the phone features less than I do all of the other (except Camera).

I am also going to take a guess, and suggest that Apple will soon launch an iPhone specific, iTunes subscription model. It will enable me to essentially listen to songs thru my iPhone, almost like an on-demand radio, without the ability to download the song. Which is fine with me. Do I spend $20/mo on iTunes now? Nope, not even close. Would I sign up for $20/mo for a service? Sure would. Just using Seeqpod.com on the iPhone allowed me to see how genius this could be. 

As for 2.0. There is just no way it is arriving in September. And there is no way a cheaper model is on the way any sooner. I think there rumors are all just based on the Multi-Touch iPods, which I do not doubt are on the way. 

It otherwise does not make sense for Apple to cannibalize their own market. Aside from a bad marketing idea, here is what makes me question such as move: the iphones inherent mutability. Meaning, I could plug it in, update, and sync it, and have a 100% new interface and features in just a few minutes. Other phones are obsolete by the time they hit the market, really. This is one that can truly expand, and grow over time. And there is built in monthly revenue, so selling new models is not as pressing as iPods, which someone could use without every buying a song from Apple. Indeed, it would be more innovative of Apple to introduce various subscription modes for the current iPhone (such as the one I mentioned), rather than introduce 2.0 so soon.

-G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent $599, and have no regrets. Stop saying it is way too much for &#8220;a phone.&#8221; Regardless of its name, it isn&#8217;t just a phone. In fact, I probably use the phone features less than I do all of the other (except Camera).</p>
<p>I am also going to take a guess, and suggest that Apple will soon launch an iPhone specific, iTunes subscription model. It will enable me to essentially listen to songs thru my iPhone, almost like an on-demand radio, without the ability to download the song. Which is fine with me. Do I spend $20/mo on iTunes now? Nope, not even close. Would I sign up for $20/mo for a service? Sure would. Just using Seeqpod.com on the iPhone allowed me to see how genius this could be. </p>
<p>As for 2.0. There is just no way it is arriving in September. And there is no way a cheaper model is on the way any sooner. I think there rumors are all just based on the Multi-Touch iPods, which I do not doubt are on the way. </p>
<p>It otherwise does not make sense for Apple to cannibalize their own market. Aside from a bad marketing idea, here is what makes me question such as move: the iphones inherent mutability. Meaning, I could plug it in, update, and sync it, and have a 100% new interface and features in just a few minutes. Other phones are obsolete by the time they hit the market, really. This is one that can truly expand, and grow over time. And there is built in monthly revenue, so selling new models is not as pressing as iPods, which someone could use without every buying a song from Apple. Indeed, it would be more innovative of Apple to introduce various subscription modes for the current iPhone (such as the one I mentioned), rather than introduce 2.0 so soon.</p>
<p>-G</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis - You&#039;re dumb. No one really cares about grammer....except you. Cunt.

Jerry - I have a feeling that it only shows one icon at a time, and you have to scroll through icons.While it probably doesn&#039;t do everything that the bigger ones doo, i think it does do more than what&#039;s shown in the pic.

Personally, I think anyone who&#039;s out there crying &quot;but I spent $600!&quot; should have waited. Besides the fact that $600 dollars is WAY too much to spend on a phone, people had to know that they&#039;d be putting out a newer, cheaper version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis &#8211; You&#8217;re dumb. No one really cares about grammer&#8230;.except you. Cunt.</p>
<p>Jerry &#8211; I have a feeling that it only shows one icon at a time, and you have to scroll through icons.While it probably doesn&#8217;t do everything that the bigger ones doo, i think it does do more than what&#8217;s shown in the pic.</p>
<p>Personally, I think anyone who&#8217;s out there crying &#8220;but I spent $600!&#8221; should have waited. Besides the fact that $600 dollars is WAY too much to spend on a phone, people had to know that they&#8217;d be putting out a newer, cheaper version.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dennis - please stop being a troll, and feel free to send us a link to your iPhone website that you work on all day to keep the user community informed so we can all troubleshoot your insignificant mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dennis &#8211; please stop being a troll, and feel free to send us a link to your iPhone website that you work on all day to keep the user community informed so we can all troubleshoot your insignificant mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand this image. Why would the nano or shuffle have safari/mail buttons but no iPod button. If an iPhone nano/shuffle does get launched, it will probably just be a phone and iPod, without the internet features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand this image. Why would the nano or shuffle have safari/mail buttons but no iPod button. If an iPhone nano/shuffle does get launched, it will probably just be a phone and iPod, without the internet features.</p>
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		<title>By: dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please stop refering to a website in the plural sense.  Engadget IS reporting. &quot;The authors of&quot; is not implied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please stop refering to a website in the plural sense.  Engadget IS reporting. &#8220;The authors of&#8221; is not implied.</p>
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