Everyone wanting a new iPhone that isn't willing to move to AT&T has hoped that another carrier would get the iPhone, especially Verizon. The San Francisco Chronicle has listed the top five reasons that it is time for an iPhone from Verizon.
The top reason is that it would boost iPhone sales. That is a no brainer and something that Apple needs to do eventually. The second reason is MMS; AT&T is certainly the hold back here. The third reason is tethering.
The iPhone can tether but the evil empire of AT&T has killed the feature on its network. Dropped calls are reason number four and the biggest issue for me with the iPhone on AT&T. I drop calls several times per day. The last reason is voice mail delays. I bet there are a lots of iPhone users who have had a voice mail show up hours or even days after the voice mail was left.
[via SFGate]
if the iphone will be moving to different carriers it will first move to tmobile, because you will need a sim card and teh only other carrier that could possible support 3g on the iphone would be tmobiles 3g network.
p.s verizon sucks
Expanding the iPhone to T-Mobile would require no RND, but wouldn’t do much for growing the iPhone’s business. Verizon is the most logical choice as it is the largest wireless carrier in the US (and most reliable!). If Verizon got the iPhone, I know at least 20 people who would happily switch from ATT’s spotty service and re-buy their iPhone for CDMA without a second thought. Really, what’s the point in having a fancy phone if the network you’re on sucks? You might as well just get an iPod Touch.
I have had several carriers over the years and they all “suck” from time to time depending on where you are at.
Most of those 5 reasons are so bogus. MMS and teathering are coming this month. I personally have had dropped calls but no more or less than with other carriers. I have never had a delay on my voicemail or texts, again maybe it is where I live which is around Washington DC. As far as boosting sales, the iPhones are selling like mad. More carries would mean more sales that much is for sure. In the end, I love my iPhone and I am not a Apple fanboy but of all the smartphones I have tried, it is way ahead of the others IMHO. As for AT&T service, it is okay to me like the other carries. Depends on where you live.
try using the new app Signals to really see how completely lame AT+T is in your area, region, and the country. I was shocked at how many holes there are around me, a major metro area. in my opinion AT+T has pulled off one of the biggest false advertising scams ever. I get drop outs, jammed emails, infrequent 3G service, delayed voice-mails ( a real deal-breaker for me), spotty syncs to mobileme. in short, just about every feature offered that relies on AT+T is glitch ridden.
To those that think it would be a redesign of how the iPhone works and would have
to be CDMA think again the Blackberry Storm uses a sim card just like
AT&T and TMobile . All Verison would have to do is provide sim cards for
it and there would be no redesign of the hardware there would be software
that would need to be changed but that is just a simple download .
Yes, I had a phone with MMS and never used it once. However it would be a nice feature to have. I have been tethering my iphone for 2 months now and I love it! Although I never upload anything for fear of being flagged and shut down.
I have cable internet here in Utah and its horrible. Advertised at 6mps is a complete lie! Using the speed test app on my iphone or running a speedtest from my MacBook I consistently get higher speeds from my AT&T 3G signal. I can barely get 1.5 from my cable internet and I always beat it with my 3G ATT service.
I have great service with AT&T, I used to have verizon and it was so slow. Here in Salt Lake City Utah AT&T is fantastic!
The iPhone will not go CDMA. CDMA is a dying system. At present, only three countries in the world have CDMA carriers – Canada, South Korea, and The US. Within a year Canada’s two national CDMA carriers will switch to GSM. That leaves Sprint, Verizon, and South Korea. Oh yeah, someone told me Belize has CDMA.
The iPhone is a GSM phone, a world phone, and it will stay a GSM phone.
ppl here who say they want verizon n bad talkin att just jelious that they dont have it
I have none of the voice mail or dropped call issues. Not saying people are making it up. The mms isn’t a good point it’s about to be there. Eventually the phone should be available on other carriers here, but verizon uses a different type of cell network. So apple would have to add another antenna just for the special verizon users. In the Houston TX area
I just left Verizon a few months ago for the 3GS. Love the phone but my frustrations with the network are mounting. I live in Denver and never had a problem with Verizon. I could even keep a call during an elevator ride. If I use my iphone 10 feet away from the windows in our office building I can’t make the call. On Monday, I was at Coors Field sitting in the outfield. I had five bars with the 3G network and could not access my email, send a text, or even think about making a call. This was the reason I got this phone, I wanted to have mini computer capabilities during events away from the office. I’m counting down the days for the Verizon iPhone!
Damn straight bob! I would love to purchase an iphone but I’m not going to AT&T todo it. I left what was then Cingular years ago because of the same reasons people are hating on AT&T now. That and their customer service sucks. I’m totally jealous, but the AT&T hate is real. I have been with Verizon for five years now and have had nary a problem. I had some billing issues once; they were kind and cooperative and fixed everything. Bring the iphone to verizon so I don’t have to be jealous of bob any more!!
ATT’s service is horrible. I couldn’t get a signal in my own house. It would drop calls all over town (Tucson, AZ) and if you get 5 miles off the free way, forget having a signal. I changed to Verizon about a year and a half ago and haven’t had but maybe one dropped call. I even had a signal up in the mountains where I never had one with ATT! I am jealous as well. I don’t thing that any provider should have the right to be the single source for any brand of phone. You should be able to get any phone for any provider IMHO.
My wife has the IPhone 3G I have the blackberry storm. My service BLOWS hers away!!!!!! not even close….. Her phone on the other hand BLOWS THE STORM AWAY!!! IPHONE on Verizon is as perfect as you can get….. I can’t wait.
I don’t see the iphone going to Verizon unless Apple is willing to produce a CDMA or LTE phone–standards that most of the world currently doesn’t use. It’s foolish to think that Apple will limit its appeal to the US market only. I can’t see Apple opening up different production lines to build different versions of its phone. Just doesn’t make any sense.
Sigh, I am so tired of hearing people who know nothing about CDMA vs GSM talk about CDMA dying. CDMA is operated in 103 countries on 108 different EVDO networks including China where 45 million subscribers and growing are on the CDMA standard.
Also, Verizon is not switching to what people call GSM. The are moving to LTE which operates on a entirely different technology than both CDMA and GSM. What should accurately be said is LTE is the next generation platform that is defined under the GSM association of wireless carriers (3GPP as its called). Ultimately, LTE will replace all CDMA and GSM carriers as they all move to just simply LTE.
Apologies, one closing point I should have made in my previous post. Regardless if its CDMA, GSM, LTE, Wi-max, all new high end wireless chips placed in smart phones will ultimately support what is called software defined radio. Just like the Blackberry Storm today supports both CDMA and GSM, its quite a simple process to make a single SKU device like the Iphone talk both languages without materially effecting the price.
In fact, the cost of the iPhones current GSM chip for those that like calling that is $13 dollars. The cost of the chip that speaks both GSM and CDMA is $35 dollars (these are best guesses since OEMs negotiate their own terms).
Get a grip the iphone (a girls phone not that that’s bad) but it just can’t take the punishment you have to give it to make it work right. The storm can and for that matter all the black berries can and do. cdma lte gsm how cares as long as the thing works when you need it. As for the rest of it it’s all smoke and mirrors have been with both and I am now with version and would not switch if you paid me.
So get a grip and quit bitching.
The iphone is the next best thing since sliced bread, and AT&T is the mold growing on it that makes it inedible. I can’t say enough bad things about AT&T. Every facet of there service completely stinks. Every day I get dropped calls, at my house it switches from 3g to edge service. Last week my voice mail quit working and I didn’t realize it. My text messaging quit working for a couple of days and people were mad at me because they thought I was ignoring their messages. One place I like to hang out at has 4 or 5 bars and 3g service and constantly drops calls. I switched from Verizon a couple of months ago and there is NO comparison to quality of service between AT&T. I NEVER had dropped calls in the couple of years I had them. It will truly be a great day when Verizon gets the iphone.
To N/A:
You’re not thinking. Obviously, since they’re a phone company, they can probably sign a deal with Apple, since they design the iPhone. Saying they will sell the iPhone WITHOUT the SIM card. They are signing the contract soon. Not officialy, but they are probably going to. T-Mobile will NOT be getting the iPhone. Because they host the G1 (Google Phone) and will not have both, (lower sales). You don’t know the slightest bit about phones. Any don’t express opinions to make them sound like facts (like Verizon sucks?) Also, if you haven’t been embarassed enough, I’m 14. D-bag
Verizon is likely about to lose my business due to their failure to provide decent smartphones. I need one for work, Blackberry doesn’t do what I need it to do (without BES), and I refuse to cripple my ability to use the phone for its primary intention by switching to Windows Mobile OS… not to mention the icky feeling that would come knowing that I have Windows in my pocket all day.
It never ceases to amaze me how short sighted some people are. I’m commenting on several ridiculous statements above.
1. If Blackberry can make a phone that works on CDMA and GSM, why does everything think it will be so hard for Apple to do so?
2. Who says Apple would be “limiting” its sales to US if they made CDMA or LTE version? The US is the biggest most important market in the world.
3. Verizon is by FAR the best network in the US. AT&T ranks 3rd or 4th in most markets, with Sprint or T Mobile usually occupying the #2 spot.
4. CDMA or GSM are just encoding languages, and GSM is in NO way superior to CDMA. Also the Japanese still use CDMA, and I’m pretty sure they know they’re technology.
5. Apple and Verizon are both building LTE networks that should roll out next year, so Apple will be able to make one iPhone to work on both networks, making all the network talk obsolete anyway.
The REAL question, is how much is Apple getting from AT&T for the exclusivity. If that amount of money, is smaller than how much they’d make selling iPhone’s to Verizon customers, they’ll be a iPhone for everyone. If its more, they’ll probably stay with AT&T. The wild card of course being that congress is looking at exclusivity deals between phone makers and service providers and my decide they’re illegal because they provide an unfair advantage. My guess is either way you’ll see an iPhone on Verizon by the end of 2010.
Everyone here comments about whether Apple will or won’t build an iphone that would work in Verizon. i wonder if Verizon will even want to carry the iphone. The way that the appstore works would be the end of verizon’s monopoly on apps for their phones. And Verizon likes to cripple their devices and to milk you for every last penny if you want to make your phone do more than being just a phone. For example: charges for their gps navigation, charges for ringtones, charges for visual voicemail, etc. All these features come free and standard in the iphone. I have Verizon and really hope they’ll get the iphone, but I wonder how willing they are to lose their ability to charge extra for everything just to get the iphone. I guess they’ll have to do some studies to figure out how many people will actually change network if they get the iphone, and if it will be worth it for them. In the end, it’s all about the bottom line.
I want an iPhone very much, my brother~in~law has one and I love the features as well as how it works. However, I use Verizon and even though I dearly want an iPhone, I’m not willing to give up my service for a company whose service is arguably very bad, at least from the complaints I’ve heard from friends who use AT&T. A few friends dropped their Verizon service, picked up AT&T and got iPhones, all I hear from them is how much they regret their decision because of the AT&T service. Hopefully, iPhone will become available to Verizon users in the near future!
Wow. There are a lot of dumb uneducated people here.
1. Verizon sucks. Still using tech invented in the 40s. They have the best coverage cause they use an older tech/towers that were put up 20-30yrs ago. T-Mobile followed by ATT started putting up GSM Towers 7-8 yrs ago(newer tech).
2. Verizon will lock you down in red and black. Disable your GPS so you have to use VZNav. Remove your 802.11b/g so you have to always use their net. Disable certain usb file transfer so you have to buy their crap. A perfect example is the “BlackBerry STORM” with no wifi,cell assisted GPS you pay monthly for.Etc.etc.etc. The STORM has dual GSM/cdma2000 mode because VZW is part owned by vodafone UK and they demanded VZW start offering these kinds of phones.. And the differences between the two techs requires more than just software changes. Differnet hardware and radios/frequencies all together.
3. LTE is a 3gpp standard as a part of GSM evolution. Which means Crappy ol Verizon will have to abandon cdma2000 for WCDMA, which is the next step in HSPUA/HSPDA-GSM evolution. This is the tech that T-Mobile/ATT are using now. This means that ATT/T-Mobile will transition to LTE much easier and less costly. If you really want to learn about this crap go to wiki and lookup “cdma2000″ and “GSM Evolution/LTE”
4. Verizon has “Largest” network(only cause they bought Altell). ATT has “fastest” network.
5. T-Mobile already has the IPhone just not here in US.
6. The US is way behind in cell tech. Due mainly to VZW/cdma2000. Europe had 3G in 2001! On GSM!
7. I have T-Mobile G1 3G Android using it right now. Cust service is awesome. Coverage is good just not out on some farm field in the middle of nowhere. But I don’t care cause I don’t go to some farm field. And if I did I would have VZW. But I don’t so who cares. But if I did my phone would be covered in red and black. It would look just like all those other $hitty cdma cellphones with no awesome features.
8. Apple and VZW cannot work with each other. They are both going to want complete autonomy. VZW doesn’t care about its customers. VZW wouldn’t even give the POLICE the location of a kidnapped womans cellphone. Apple will want to continue to have complete autonomy and VZW won’t give it to em. Steve Jobs won’t let em have it until the VZW ceo gets on his knees and begs for it.
9. Google Android and the open handset alliance are the future. Verizon wants it and is scared its going to have to give up control to get it. Search on the facts my friends. VZW is out to screw you out of features and make you feel inferior to your GSM buddies. Just compare features,prices,and plans. Not just coverage. F coverage and that stupid farm field.
I want and will likely get an iphone but the ONLY reason I hesitate is because I have terrible signal strength in my neighborhood, I mean terrible in next to nothng, and I live only one mile from Disneyland. I’ve complained to AT&T for the past three years and they keep telling me they are working on it. Has it been remedied? that is a strong, “NO”. So why shold I spend the money and seervice charges for an iphone when it won’t even work at home? I wait for other carriers to carry it.
I would like to clear up some misconceptions presented in this forum.
1. US is not behind in hypothetical wireless technologies, but is behind in actual usage technology because the FCC limits the technology for various asinine reasons.
2. A)CDMA and GSM are radio frequency technologies. B)EV-DO and UTMS are the data technologies used.
3. UTMS (AT&T) is faster that EV-DO (Verizon), but Verizon is abandoning EV-DO and rolling out the LTE network.
4. The iPhone will be available on Verizon via CDMA/LTE and on AT&T via GSM/LTE – as LTE will initially be “data only” until a full roll out of LTE towers can be deployed by 2013(by verizon) and 2015(by AT&T).
5. There are only 3 cities in North America that will have LTE towers by January 2010 – Vancouver (Rogers), Seattle and Boston (Verizon)
5. Verizon has already launched the LTE network (see above) and AT&T will eventually launch the network in 2011.
I have had AT&T in my area and it is absolutely terrible when it comes to reception, and service. I have friends who love their iPhones, but are moving back to Verizon as a result of all of the issues with AT&T. I have Verizon and had a Blackberry 8703 that was like a rock. I couldn’t wait for the Storm. What a dog! Nothing but trouble. I’ve gone thru 4 handsets in just over two months. Finally got one that worked, more or less, and then along came the upgrade. Another nightmare. No longer have a fully functional phone. CAN’T WAIT until the iPhone arrives at Verizon! That will be a pairing that was meant to be, in my estimation.