Comments on: Apple and Cingular: Who bent whom over the iPhone? http://www.iphonebuzz.com/apple-and-cingular-who-bent-whom-over-the-iphone-20432.php tracking the iPhone revolution Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:31:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Hemmes844@gmail.com http://www.iphonebuzz.com/apple-and-cingular-who-bent-whom-over-the-iphone-20432.php/comment-page-1#comment-72413 Hemmes844@gmail.com Fri, 16 Sep 2011 00:54:57 +0000 http://www.myiphone.com/apple-and-cingular-who-bent-whom-over-the-iphone-20432.php#comment-72413 Someone necessarily help to make seriously articles I would state. That is the first time I frequented your web page and up to now? I amazed with the research you made to create this particular put up incredible. Magnificent activity! Someone necessarily help to make seriously articles I would state. That is the first time I frequented your web page and up to now? I amazed with the research you made to create this particular put up incredible. Magnificent activity!

]]> By: mark http://www.iphonebuzz.com/apple-and-cingular-who-bent-whom-over-the-iphone-20432.php/comment-page-1#comment-670 mark Wed, 21 Feb 2007 05:10:18 +0000 http://www.myiphone.com/apple-and-cingular-who-bent-whom-over-the-iphone-20432.php#comment-670 You left off a few we already know about: Apple also did got Cingular to implement its desired voicemail app, and Apple got Cingular give up its own walled garden services. But we don't know about a lot of other issues that may have gone Cingular's way, such as VoIP calls, WiFi use without a cell agreement, access to iTunes Store with portion of sales revenue going to Cingular, and using iTunes songs as ringtones (this one may be more of a music licensing issue). You left off a few we already know about: Apple also did got Cingular to implement its desired voicemail app, and Apple got Cingular give up its own walled garden services.

But we don’t know about a lot of other issues that may have gone Cingular’s way, such as VoIP calls, WiFi use without a cell agreement, access to iTunes Store with portion of sales revenue going to Cingular, and using iTunes songs as ringtones (this one may be more of a music licensing issue).

]]> By: jbelkin http://www.iphonebuzz.com/apple-and-cingular-who-bent-whom-over-the-iphone-20432.php/comment-page-1#comment-667 jbelkin Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:21:04 +0000 http://www.myiphone.com/apple-and-cingular-who-bent-whom-over-the-iphone-20432.php#comment-667 First of all, a business partnership means that everyone gives in a little to reach an agreement - it's NOT like a lawsuit where you chalk up your losses and lick your wounds and try to convince yourself it's not so bad ... you only left off about 100 other issues that you could argue with both ways - while the phone is not going to say Cingular - how many people actually think their Moto phone is made by Verizon or T-Mobile - besides, the Cingular name is going to come up on the screen not to mention that thanks to partnring with Apple, Cingular also got about $1 billion dollars worth of free PR though AT&T tossed that away to change back to AT&T - besides Apple, what is the ONLY brand that will get associated with the iphone - AT&T/Cingular ... and 3 months before it's out, it's already attained a must-have status and there are only TWO places to buy it - at Apple and at AT&T ... what is that worth to have a lock on driving 500,000-1,000,000 walking into your stores or million checking online or hundreds of millions reading about you & Apple? How much would AT&T have had to spend on PR or ads to get all the blogshere pages so far? What worth is it to make your competitors look old and out of it? I'm not claming the iphone is perfect nor even great as I haveb't actually touched one but it is already clearly a disruptive force psychologically and with real results (how many people are holding off switching or buying a new cell phone?) so your three criterias only begin to touch upon the implications ... just like when Aple choose Cingular, it choose no to the others AND it choose no to go it along as a MVDO ... so, your scoring system is just too basic and hardly covering anything. First of all, a business partnership means that everyone gives in a little to reach an agreement – it’s NOT like a lawsuit where you chalk up your losses and lick your wounds and try to convince yourself it’s not so bad … you only left off about 100 other issues that you could argue with both ways – while the phone is not going to say Cingular – how many people actually think their Moto phone is made by Verizon or T-Mobile – besides, the Cingular name is going to come up on the screen not to mention that thanks to partnring with Apple, Cingular also got about $1 billion dollars worth of free PR though AT&T tossed that away to change back to AT&T – besides Apple, what is the ONLY brand that will get associated with the iphone – AT&T/Cingular … and 3 months before it’s out, it’s already attained a must-have status and there are only TWO places to buy it – at Apple and at AT&T … what is that worth to have a lock on driving 500,000-1,000,000 walking into your stores or million checking online or hundreds of millions reading about you & Apple? How much would AT&T have had to spend on PR or ads to get all the blogshere pages so far? What worth is it to make your competitors look old and out of it? I’m not claming the iphone is perfect nor even great as I haveb’t actually touched one but it is already clearly a disruptive force psychologically and with real results (how many people are holding off switching or buying a new cell phone?) so your three criterias only begin to touch upon the implications … just like when Aple choose Cingular, it choose no to the others AND it choose no to go it along as a MVDO … so, your scoring system is just too basic and hardly covering anything.

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