Comments on: A friendly word of advice to fellow iPhone enthusiasts

By: StevesNewPhone.com

StevesNewPhone.com — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:44:46 +0000

Oh, I forgot!

Great site Vince!

Great podcast Rob!

By: StevesNewPhone.com

StevesNewPhone.com — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:42:37 +0000

I didn’t want to take a chance cuz I’m a chickensh!t… I just decided to make my own personal iPhone blog (actually a What I’m doing with my Apple products blog) at http://www.StevesNewPhone.com

I think I’ll be O.K. with THAT one! Unless Mr. Jobs also has copyrighted “Steve”!

By: JC

JC — Sun, 24 Jun 2007 04:55:57 +0000

I have http://www.iphonegadgetstore.com registered.

i placed it for sale on ebay, i am not waiting for a C&D.

By: Vincent Nguyen

Vincent Nguyen — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:07:25 +0000

this guys got some big balls – using “apple and iPhone” in one url.

http://www.appleiphones.com/

By: Vincent Nguyen

Vincent Nguyen — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:31:58 +0000

[quote comment="3897"]I've got registered with a fair amount of original content on it. I'm gonna hold out for a C&D, too, because I'm having fun really musing on webapp development there.[/quote] The site looks really good Trey.

By: Trey

Trey — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:23:06 +0000

I've got registered with a fair amount of original content on it. I'm gonna hold out for a C&D, too, because I'm having fun really musing on webapp development there.

By: PRayl

PRayl — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:04:36 +0000

Hey Rob! I really enjoy your podcasts. You do great work!

By: Vincent Nguyen

Vincent Nguyen — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:32:11 +0000

[quote comment="3886"]I have http://www.iphoneservices.com registered in 2004 before launch.

and it is for sale

contact : gjgiraldo@terra.es[/quote]

You can try to sell, but I doubt anyone will buy a domain with “iPhone” in it. It’s too high of a risk in the event that Apple should go after you for using it.

By: Vincent Nguyen

Vincent Nguyen — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:27:54 +0000

[quote comment="3883"]I am going to hold out for the C&D letter. Want to add it to my collection.

I have the first iPhone Podcast (on Ep. 16 now) and have no plans on changing the name.

Check it out at

http://www.todayiniphone.com

Rob – Host of Today in iPhone Podcast[/quote]

true story, I had iphonetoday.com, then let it go. damn – oh well :).

By: gabriel

gabriel — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:06:20 +0000

I have http://www.iphoneservices.com registered in 2004 before launch.

and it is for sale

contact : gjgiraldo@terra.es

By: Rob W

Rob W — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:39:17 +0000

I am going to hold out for the C&D letter. Want to add it to my collection.

I have the first iPhone Podcast (on Ep. 16 now) and have no plans on changing the name.

Check it out at

http://www.todayiniphone.com

Rob – Host of Today in iPhone Podcast

By: Vincent Nguyen

Vincent Nguyen — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:32:56 +0000

[quote comment="3879"]By the by, re the MOTORAZR suit -- if you ask me, that was simply bad lawyering on the part of Motorola. They owned MOTO, they owned RAZR, they should have gone after you for using the two together. Hard to see how they could have lost that.

That you used MOTORAZR to discuss cell phones other than the Motorola RAZR clearly damaged Motorola and there's simply no way you weren't trading "on their good name".

But I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on the Internet, so what do I know. But I'd be really surprised if your lawyer in that case hadn't used some variation of "lucky" in his description of the outcome of that case.

But hey, sometimes it's better to be lucky than good!

reinharden[/quote]

Lucky? Not really. We were using "motorazr" way before Motorola decided they were going to rebrand the crappy ass RAZR to MOTORAZR. If you look carefully into the case, it was I that originally suggested Motorola should have used MOTORAZR as the name of the phone (in an article I wrote back in 2004 - Motorola didn't file for trademark until 2006!). Oh well, we forced them to change the name to RAZR2 - of which they lost a bundle in cash branding RAZR to MOTORAZR last year. Had their lawyers weren't such assholes, I would have been happy to let the domain go.

By: Vincent Nguyen

Vincent Nguyen — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:29:49 +0000

[quote comment="3877"]I think you’d find that Apple doesn’t have an exclusive right to iPhone, just a trademark.

Trademarks are generally limited to particular markets (although in the modern Internet era, the definition of a market is more flexible than it used to be).

In any case, use iPhone in a manner not likely to be confusing with Apple’s iPhone or Cisco’s iPhone and you’ll be fine.

Use iPhone to create a commercial website talking about Apple’s iPhone and you’d have a very, very difficult time demonstrating that you weren’t doing so in abuse of Apple’s trademark.

Apple and Cisco are going to have a bit more problem with iPhone.com as that site predates either company deciding to have a product named iPhone. But nothing that money can’t solve. But the “Internet Phone Company” will get a lot of slack seeing as how they’ve lived at iPhone.com since 1995. ;-)

reinharden[/quote]

I don’t think they’ve always owned iphone.com. When I checked prior – it was used for a bunch links…nothing more. I think this so called internet phone company recently acquired the name a couple of years back.

By: reinharden

reinharden — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:21:19 +0000

By the by, re the MOTORAZR suit — if you ask me, that was simply bad lawyering on the part of Motorola. They owned MOTO, they owned RAZR, they should have gone after you for using the two together. Hard to see how they could have lost that.

That you used MOTORAZR to discuss cell phones other than the Motorola RAZR clearly damaged Motorola and there’s simply no way you weren’t trading “on their good name”.

But I’m not a lawyer and I don’t play one on the Internet, so what do I know. But I’d be really surprised if your lawyer in that case hadn’t used some variation of “lucky” in his description of the outcome of that case.

But hey, sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good!

reinharden

By: reinharden

reinharden — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:14:08 +0000

I think you’d find that Apple doesn’t have an exclusive right to iPhone, just a trademark.

Trademarks are generally limited to particular markets (although in the modern Internet era, the definition of a market is more flexible than it used to be).

In any case, use iPhone in a manner not likely to be confusing with Apple’s iPhone or Cisco’s iPhone and you’ll be fine.

Use iPhone to create a commercial website talking about Apple’s iPhone and you’d have a very, very difficult time demonstrating that you weren’t doing so in abuse of Apple’s trademark.

reinharden